Wish information about old canoe
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That's scant information. We like photos. Please post profile, stem, overall, decks and the stencil. What is the construction of the canoe? Traditional wood/canvas? There is some similarity between that numbering sequence and White, which often used 16, the length, 35, the year of build, and the number.
I agree with Tom McCloud that pictures and more details could help. Some Robertson canoes have shown up with a format like this. See http://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/624/ and http://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/14178/ for some similar examples. There are no known serial number records for Robertson canoes so we lack the detailed information available for some other builders. The 'outline' font of a Robertson number is distinctly different from the more traditional font of a White number. See http://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/6482/ for an example of a White serial number.
Benson
Benson
Michael Grace
Lifetime Member
Agreed with Benson - this serial number format sounds like it's from the Charles River area. I've got a couple with this serial number format. Neither has a maker's mark of any kind that I've been able to find, but they are clearly from the Charles River area around and upstream of Boston.
Even though ours have no maker's marks, as Benson indicated, there are some canoes with this serial number format that have two different kinds of Robertson marks: deck tag and/or the Robertson name stamped into the ends of the thwarts.
Even though ours have no maker's marks, as Benson indicated, there are some canoes with this serial number format that have two different kinds of Robertson marks: deck tag and/or the Robertson name stamped into the ends of the thwarts.
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Rob Stevens
Wooden Canoes are in the Blood
Those beautiful kneeling thwarts are often found on Charles River builders canoes.
It seems certain that this canoe is not a White. A very nice looking canoe it is. You have what is termed a 'closed gunwale' canoe - note the strip of wood entirely along the top of the gunwales. Most manufacturers discontinued this by the 1920's in favor of ' open gunwale' construction, so my guess that the 35 stamped on the stem was the year of the build is almost certainly wrong.
smallboatshop
Restorers
Robertson or Crandell ?? http://wcha.org/forums/index.php?th...-canvas-canoe-serial-1895-17.6718/#post-36026
The 1938 Robertson catalog attached below shows closed gunwales on a Camp Special model canoe with "lap rib" half ribs that otherwise looks very similar to this one. More information like this is available from http://www.wcha.org/store/historic-wood-canoe-and-boat-company-catalog-collection in the scanned catalogs.
Benson
Benson
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JClearwater
Wooden Canoes are in the Blood
WHC,
You haven't said how long your canoe is but Crandell only made one model. It was called the "Lake Quinsigamond" model 17' long. It had 'normal' caned seats. Your canoe has kneeling thwarts like Robertson made. John Robertson was Crandall's father-in-law and they worked together for a while at least. They both used the same three lobe deck style that your canoe has. Crandell died in 1924. Robertson died 1935 I think. There is more information about both of them here on the forums.
You have a very nice canoe.
Jim
You haven't said how long your canoe is but Crandell only made one model. It was called the "Lake Quinsigamond" model 17' long. It had 'normal' caned seats. Your canoe has kneeling thwarts like Robertson made. John Robertson was Crandall's father-in-law and they worked together for a while at least. They both used the same three lobe deck style that your canoe has. Crandell died in 1924. Robertson died 1935 I think. There is more information about both of them here on the forums.
You have a very nice canoe.
Jim
