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White cedar availability?

Discussion in 'Wood and Canvas' started by rinkrat, Dec 21, 2016.

  1. rinkrat

    rinkrat Curious about Wooden Canoes

    I searched the forum for sources of white cedar but didn't find anything recent. Clear White Cedar is quite scarce in Michigan these days. Where is everyone getting their stock for new builds?
     
    rinkrat, Dec 21, 2016
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  2. Rob Stevens

    Rob Stevens Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    Lots available in Ontario, but if I told you where,...
     
    Rob Stevens, Dec 21, 2016
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  3. samb

    samb LOVES Wooden Canoes

    In the uk, It's all second hand and canoe shaped:)
     
    samb, Dec 22, 2016
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  4. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    There was a recent thread at http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?216610 in the Wooden Boat forum about some Atlantic White Cedar available in Albany, Vermont but the shipping to Michigan could be prohibitive. It is also worth keeping in mind that Atlantic White Cedar generally does not steam bend as well as Northern White Cedar (i.e. your breakage rate is likely to be much higher). Good luck,

    Benson
     
    Benson Gray, Dec 22, 2016
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  5. Gary Willoughby

    Gary Willoughby Boat Builder

    Clear cedar is quite easy to find in Mi. The best place to start looking is the Amish mills. It takes a little work but it is well worth it.
     
    Gary Willoughby, Dec 22, 2016
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  6. Paul Miller

    Paul Miller Canoe Nut

    Hi Rinkrat,

    Where are you in west mi.

    I have lots of it and a place in Glenn, MI. but live in IL.

    Are you looking for rib stock, most of my stuff is 8'.

    you can send me a private message.

    Paul
     
    Paul Miller, Dec 22, 2016
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  7. MGC

    MGC Scrapmaker

    Boy howdy this site was slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww today.

    You might also locate wood by using the builder and restorer guide to locate a supply. Many of the builders sell materials. They are not always super affordable but if you just need a bit of wood to make a few ribs or produce a few planks you may not care.
    http://www.wcha.org/builder-and-restorer-directory.
    I have also found cedar on Craigslist...and http://www.kijiji.ca/

    Good Luck
     
    MGC, Dec 22, 2016
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  8. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    Gary Willoughby is right. I got mine, about 1100 bd feet several years ago. Amish sawyers. It's out there.
     
    Dave Wermuth, Dec 22, 2016
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    rinkrat

    rinkrat Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Thank you, all. I will search the mills since I do have a few Amish mills in the area but I am guessing north of me (I'm in the Sand Lake area) will yield more opportunities for cedar.
     
    rinkrat, Dec 23, 2016
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    rinkrat

    rinkrat Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Thanks Paul. I live out side of Sand Lake which is 30 miles north of Grand Rapids. I also have a place near Traverse City which is closer to Glenn. I am hoping to build a new solo canoe but didn't want to start if I couldn't locate stock. I have the means of re-sawing and planing so 8' lumber is fine. I haven't even gone through the trouble of figuring out how much I need so maybe that is the next step. My email is rinkkey.25@gmail.com is case we need to connect. Len
     
    rinkrat, Dec 23, 2016
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  11. Jan Bloom

    Jan Bloom LOVES Wooden Canoes

    The Amish mills they are referring to are up around MIO, MI. Call Marion at Woodside Lumber 989 826-1511. Leave a message if no one answers. They will get back to you.
     
    Jan Bloom, Dec 23, 2016
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  12. David Satter

    David Satter LOVES Wooden Canoes

    www.condonlumber.com White Plains NY. Usually have great cedar. up to 8/4 thick and 16 feet long. Flinch sawn wide stuff. Call first before you go , they usually have a big pile. don't tell anyone. might be .net
     
    David Satter, Dec 27, 2016
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