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Construction of a Morris

Discussion in 'Wood and Canvas' started by yeolwoodsman, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. BCam

    BCam Curious about Wooden Canoes

    I never got to do anything like this in school. What a great project.
     
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Need a little help.

    We are at the point on the project of building the structure for the decks. Its a model A Type III and I'm hoping that someone out there might have a photo of the supports for the long decks. The plans from Northwoods shows a great plan view but Im trying to determine if the cross piece where the combing is has a crown to it. I have not had the best luck searching for pictures of this detail on the forums. I'm looking forward to any help I can get. Thanks!
     
  3. Steve Ambrose

    Steve Ambrose Nut in a Canoe

    I have one in the shop with the decks off. I'll get you some images later today.
     
  4. OP
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Awsome! Thank You!
     
  5. Steve Ambrose

    Steve Ambrose Nut in a Canoe

    No problem! In the meantime the answer to your basic question is yes, the crosspiece does have a crown to it and the support that goes from it to the tip is also bent. It curves up to match the sweep of the rails. This piece is also slightly beveled on top from center in both directions so the two deck halves will land flat. The end result of the crowned cross-piece and upswept center support once the deck halves and center trim are in place gives you a deck that curves up to the tip parallel to centerline and curves down to the rails at the combing.
     
  6. fred capenos

    fred capenos Wooden Canoe Maniac

    Will this help? Fred DSC06692-1.JPG DSC06589.JPG
     
  7. fred capenos

    fred capenos Wooden Canoe Maniac

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    Here's another angle
     
  8. Steve Ambrose

    Steve Ambrose Nut in a Canoe

    Great job Fred! Now I don't have to take pictures or clean up my shop ;) What type of wood did you make the replacements out of? They look far better than the pieced-together originals which seem to be made out of cedar on mine.
     
  9. OP
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Exactly what I was looking for. I'm also curious on the material.
    Thanks
    Rolf
     
  10. fred capenos

    fred capenos Wooden Canoe Maniac

    That wood was in the rafters when we bought our home. I asked a friend who is up on wood species and he said it was Douglas Fir. I would think you could glue up about anything and saw it out. I don't think cedar would be a good choice though. It may be too soft to hold the small small fasteners. If it would help, I could send you the best pieces that came out of our canoe. Fred
     
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Deck Frames On

    First I have to thank Fred for posting the pics. That was a big help!!

    Here is what we we ended up with. Back frame is in and the front is waiting for the center piece. Nice and solid! We needed to get the cant ribs in and it was easier without the center piece there. Now we get to finish up the planking and clinching and see about getting some canvas on it.

    back.jpg Front.jpg
     
  12. Greg Nolan

    Greg Nolan enthusiast

    Looking really good!
     
  13. fred capenos

    fred capenos Wooden Canoe Maniac

    My pleasure. Glad I could help. Fred
     
  14. OP
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Planking on and almost ready to fair the hull.

    Steven and I got the last of the planking on today. The slight gaps in the planking is getting some filler pieces before we get to fairing the hull. I ordered the canvas and filler yesterday so we should be able to canvas next weekend here at home. The canoe will go back to the school shop after canvasing so that we can fill it. Should be good to have it drying in a nice heated shop while the seats, thwarts, decks and outwales get fabricated.

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    How's it looking?
     
  15. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    Very nice! May as well start another while you're at it.
     
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Home for Canvas

    Brought the boat home today so that we can canvas it here in the garage. I have a canvas stretching set up all ready I just need to clear out the garage enough to get to it. That should be the hardest part...I hope.

    Trailer 3.jpg Trailer 4.jpg
     
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Stretching Canvas

    Got the canvas on today. The setup I have for stretching the canvas is in the garage. I wish it was a little higher on the walls though. After a couple hours it kind of gets to the back at the height we were at. The second photo shows the new canoe with my next restoration project hanging from the rafters to the left. Its a 1922 Old Town HW. It's stripped and ready for some woodwork.

    Stretching Canvas1.jpg New and old.jpg One end done.jpg
     
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Update

    We are making progress on the Morris. The filler has been on for 5 weeks today (It's been drying in the heated shop at school the whole time). The seats and thwarts are ready to go on. We bent the deck boards. We have had some trouble bending the outside stems but will be attempting another try tomorrow. Tomorrow the boat comes home for varnish and paint. We have two and half weeks to go. The boat is scheduled to go on display at the North Jersey Student Craftsman's Fair from May 16-22. NO PRESSURE??

    Pictures:
    1 Seat frame drilling pattern printed in AutoCAD and taped to Seat Frame
    2 Steven Drilling out the seat frame
    3&4 Second coat of filler going on
    5&6 Decking clamped up after steaming
     

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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    A few more pictures

    First picture Fully filled boat ready to go back to the warm shop to dry...5 Weeks ago.
    Second Seats ready to go. First time hand caning. Just finished yesterday.
     

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  20. pklonowski

    pklonowski Unrepentant Canoeist

    Coming together nicely!
     

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