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Discussion in 'Wood and Canvas' started by bob goeckel, Dec 5, 2006.

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funeral or restore?

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  1. bob goeckel

    bob goeckel Wooden Canoe Maniac

    viking funeral? or restore?
     

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  2. Andre Cloutier

    Andre Cloutier Firestarter. Wicked Firestarter.

    funeral

    no doubt about it, you should abandon immediately and buy something else; a trapper for example.:D
     
  3. OP
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    bob goeckel

    bob goeckel Wooden Canoe Maniac

    didn't you get my email andre? i've been waiting a reply
     
  4. Ric Altfather

    Ric Altfather WCHA #4035

    Cannot Stop Now!

    Bob,

    After the completion of that beautiful Morris, how can you stop...looks like this is a perfect winter project.

    Ric Altfather
     
  5. Dan Lindberg

    Dan Lindberg Ex Wood Hoarder

    Bob,

    There's not enough info to make a decision.

    What is it? How many others are waiting in line? How bad is it?
    Do you know anybody else looking for a project?

    If it's a OT and you have 7-8 waiting, and it's 1/2 rotted, maybe a funeral, but if any of the above are no, well, then you've got a project.

    Dan
     
  6. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

    I've seen (and worked on) worse. I was thinking it's a Penn Yan too, No?
     
  7. OP
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    bob goeckel

    bob goeckel Wooden Canoe Maniac

    it's a 17' penn yan oye vie model. that's easy for you to say gil! it's not in your shop.:D
     
  8. MikeCav

    MikeCav Restorer/Videographer

    Hey - what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Doing it for a client or personal use?
     
  9. DGuertin

    DGuertin Inquiring Mind

    My 5 Dollars (Two Cents US)

    The question isn't restore or not.

    It's "Can I store it out of the way so I can think about it more?"

    I'm a packrat so I'd at least keep it until some divine guidance gave me a push!
     
  10. Fitz

    Fitz Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    Bring it to Assembly

    Fix'er up and tote it to Assembly so you can re-launch it on Keuka where it was born!!
     
  11. Bill Mackey

    Bill Mackey LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Not enough info ??

    How many ribs needto be replaced?
    How many square feet of planking will be needed?
    Gunwales always need to be replaced anyway?
    How bad are the bow stems?
     
  12. OP
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    bob goeckel

    bob goeckel Wooden Canoe Maniac

    bill, if i have enough material for a new canoe i can probably restore it. then i'll have a new canoe! it's that bad! dave wermuth said he wouldn't give it to me at first because i'd be mad at him,well..... i'm not speaking to him!!!!:mad: ( just kiddding dave). not sure of the model, i need to call him when i start talking to him again.:D
     
  13. OP
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    bob goeckel

    bob goeckel Wooden Canoe Maniac

    that's where it was built? if i spend the money needed to fix it i can't afford the trip. besides why would anyone leave beautiful flint,mich.:D
     
  14. Andre Cloutier

    Andre Cloutier Firestarter. Wicked Firestarter.

    leaving flint

    I've got the answer to that one....
     
  15. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    this is what it needs.

    ribs-100%
    Planks-100%
    stems-2
    decks-2
    'whales-in and out
    canvas-yes.
    Actually the wood is completely rotted. it is almost back to dust. Brenda told him he was crazy. the only thing to do would be to bleach it, varnish it, display it as an example of what happens if you pile brush on it for 20 years. A lady in my dad's church gave it to me, I gave her some money for lunch. It was under a brush pile in the woods. i made a form from it. I gave it away. It lay in the dirt in a chicken coop for two years. it came back. I put it in the barn. I tricked Bob into taking it home. Proving Brenda is right. Another good survey would be how long it'll be before Bob talks to me again. the new canoe i am building from the form is pretty cool.
     
  16. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    It is PY

    But it is 18'. A guide.
    or, it was. the photos are deceiving.
     
  17. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

    I take that back, maybe I haven't seen worse. Maybe it is time for a funeral pyre. At least it'll warm you up for ten minutes or so...
     
  18. Bill Mackey

    Bill Mackey LOVES Wooden Canoes

    back to primary use

    When I used to whittle I would take wook from the firewood pile, therefore it could always go back to its original purpose. It sounds like this canoe could go into the wood stove pictured in Bob's show and keep him warm while he works on another winter project.
     
  19. OP
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    bob goeckel

    bob goeckel Wooden Canoe Maniac

    HI DAVE!:mad:
     
  20. Douglas Ingram

    Douglas Ingram Red River Canoe & Paddle

    I'm with Dan. Seen worse, fixed worse (much worse). Its your call as to whether you WANT to restore it.
     

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