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16" E.M.White

Discussion in 'Research and History' started by toolbox, Feb 24, 2010.

  1. toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Hello Everyone,
    I have just registered and hope you all can help me. I am trying to date and identify the model of an E.M.White canoe which I purchased about 18 years ago from friends of my wife's parents. It was on Kezer Pond in Maine for about 50 years before I got it. The dimensions of the canoe are about identical to the Rushton "Indian Girl" shown on Northwoods' web page. It needs restoration which I plan to do in my retirement ( rapidly approaching). I have the name plate and stem bands which I understand are a critical characteristic of E. M. White's canoes.
    Any help is appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Toolbox
     
  2. Kathryn Klos

    Kathryn Klos squirrel whisperer

    Welcome!

    There are some White catalogs on CD, which can be used to help date canoes if we have pictures... and we do love pictures!
     
  3. OP
    OP
    toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Thanks for the reply

    I hope to photo document the canoe soon. Current weather conditions preclude success in thaat activity.
     
  4. Kathryn Klos

    Kathryn Klos squirrel whisperer

    Does your canoe have a D-shaped stern seat? What is the shape of the deck?
     
  5. OP
    OP
    toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

    The rear seat is rectangular. The deck is triangular with an inwardly arched base. It measures 10 1/2 inches on the side, 3 9/16 inches on the base. We are having bad weather through the weekend, so I probable will not get pics this week.
     
  6. Fitz

    Fitz Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    Serial No.?

    Is there a serial number on your stem(s)? I think the rule of thumb is White started using serial nos. after about 1940. If your canoe does not have one it may date from before 1940.
     
  7. OP
    OP
    toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

    I 've braved the elements between squals to get a few pics. As you can see I have a lot to do.
     

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  8. OP
    OP
    toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

    HelloFitz,
    I have not found any serial #.
    Regards,
    Andy (toolbox)
     
  9. Dan Lindberg

    Dan Lindberg Ex Wood Hoarder

    Andy,

    Attached are a couple images of S/n's in other Whites, look on the top surface of the stems, near the ends on the 'floor".

    Dan

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  10. chris pearson

    chris pearson Michigan Canoe Nut

    Hmmm, late 20's - 30's maybe? Open gunwales, thwarts not super fine, are you sure its 16? Looks longer to me.:confused:
     
  11. OP
    OP
    toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Thanks, but no #'s
     
  12. OP
    OP
    toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Hello Chris,
    She,s 16 foot - na mor' ner less.
    Thanks,
    Andy
     
  13. chris pearson

    chris pearson Michigan Canoe Nut

    Oh, oops. EM Whites are awesome, It'll be a nice canoe when finished.......
     
  14. Dan Lindberg

    Dan Lindberg Ex Wood Hoarder

    Andy,

    Forgot to add, just to make you feel better, I got a 16 ft White a few years ago from Dan M that makes your's look very nice. :)

    And keep us posted with pics, more pics, as you bring her back to life.

    Dan
     
  15. OP
    OP
    toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

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  16. OP
    OP
    toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

    10 years later. Completed on 6/21/2020 after 2 moves.
     
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  17. pklonowski

    pklonowski Unrepentant Canoeist

    A bit of a transformation, he said, understatedly... Looks great! Congratulations!
     
  18. Michael Grace

    Michael Grace Lifetime Member

    Hey Andy (Toolbox) - great to see you back with a fully-restored E.M. White after 10 years! Congratulations on your perseverance, and so happy that you came back onto the forums after so long to show us the final product. Love those bang plates, and it's great that you put it all back together just as it was. So have you had it out on the water yet? I'll bet it is a thrill to paddle. I'm slowly working on an old White myself. Hopefully someday I can post photos here for you to see. I'm going to shoot for June 21, 2030...

    Congratulations!
    Michael
     
  19. OP
    OP
    toolbox

    toolbox Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Thanks for the kind words. This was an apprentice project of long duration. Many miscues. The brass stem covers were a real trial. I have just started my second restoration, a 1938 CS OTCA 17 in terrible disrepair. Gunwales, decks and at least 30 ribs. I hope to be a little faster this time.
     

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